Is this correct use of INSTEAD OF Triggers?

I am loading data from table A into table B. Certain columns in B have
check constraints. I'd like for any rows from A, which violate
constraints, to be inserted into a third table, C. When the process is
finished, I'll have only good rows in B, and exeption rows in C.

I am investigating INSTEAD OF triggers, however my question to the
group is, is there a better or best practice for this scenario? This
must be common. Any high-level tips or direction will be highly
appreciated.

DAP>> loading data from table A into table B. Certain columns in B have
check constraints. I'd like for any rows from A, which violate
constraints, to be inserted into a third table, C. <<

You might want to use a cursor that attempts to insert each A row into
B and throws the exceptions into C. This would give you better control
and perhaps a chance to fix the bad rows with (ugh!) procedural code.

A moire set-oriented approach woudl be to create a VIEW on A whch has
the B constraints:

CREATE VIEW GoodA
AS SELECT *
FROM A
WHERE << B's constraints as predicates>> ;

You are probably thinking that the next step is to use:

CREATE VIEW BadA
AS SELECT *
FROM A
WHERE NOT (<< B's constraints as predicates>>);

But this does not work. A CHECK() constraint will accept an UNKNOWN
result from its predicate; a WHERE clause will reject them. You will
have to write a little extra code in each predicate to handle NULLs.

example:

CREATE TABLE B
( ..
foo INTEGER CHECK ( foo >= 0), -- works for null
..);

SELECT *
FROM A
WHERE ( foo >= 0 OR foo IS NULL);|||Hi

You can try something like:

INSERT INTO Table C
SELECT col1, col2, col3 FROM TABLE A
WHERE <CLAUSE TO TEST CONSTRAINT FAIL
INSERT INTO Table B
SELECT col1, col2, col3 FROM TABLE A
WHERE <CLAUSE TO TEST CONSTRAINTS PASS
OR
INSERT INTO Table B
SELECT col1, col2, col3 FROM TABLE A
WHERE NOT EXISTS ( SELECT * FROM TABLE C WHERE <CLAUSE TO CHECK NOT IN C>)

John

"Dan" <dpratte@.dpratte.com> wrote in message
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>I am loading data from table A into table B. Certain columns in B have
> check constraints. I'd like for any rows from A, which violate
> constraints, to be inserted into a third table, C. When the process is
> finished, I'll have only good rows in B, and exeption rows in C.
> I am investigating INSTEAD OF triggers, however my question to the
> group is, is there a better or best practice for this scenario? This
> must be common. Any high-level tips or direction will be highly
> appreciated.
> DAP|||Dan (dpratte@.dpratte.com) writes:
> I am loading data from table A into table B. Certain columns in B have
> check constraints. I'd like for any rows from A, which violate
> constraints, to be inserted into a third table, C. When the process is
> finished, I'll have only good rows in B, and exeption rows in C.
> I am investigating INSTEAD OF triggers, however my question to the
> group is, is there a better or best practice for this scenario? This
> must be common.

Not really.

I think the only way to do this without duplicating the constraints is
run a cursor one-by-one as suggested by Celko. An improvement could be
to first attempt to insert all, and if there is an error, use the
cursor as a fallback. But you could not do this in an INSTEAD OF
trigger, because an error in a trigger aborts the batch. You see,
the whole idea is that the INSERT statement should be atomic, either
all rows make it, or others not.

An alternative would be move the constraints to the trigger and check
for them there. An INSTEAD OF trigger would then redo the original
INSERT statement for the good rows. An AFTER trigger would delete
the bad rows.

--
Erland Sommarskog, SQL Server MVP, esquel@.sommarskog.se

Books Online for SQL Server SP3 at
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/techin.../2000/books.asp|||Hi

I missed the title to this! Rather than use a trigger I would put the logic
into a stored procedure.

John

"John Bell" <jbellnewsposts@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi
> You can try something like:
> INSERT INTO Table C
> SELECT col1, col2, col3 FROM TABLE A
> WHERE <CLAUSE TO TEST CONSTRAINT FAIL>
> INSERT INTO Table B
> SELECT col1, col2, col3 FROM TABLE A
> WHERE <CLAUSE TO TEST CONSTRAINTS PASS>
> OR
> INSERT INTO Table B
> SELECT col1, col2, col3 FROM TABLE A
> WHERE NOT EXISTS ( SELECT * FROM TABLE C WHERE <CLAUSE TO CHECK NOT IN C>)
> John
> "Dan" <dpratte@.dpratte.com> wrote in message
> news:1115474335.494377.167790@.o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
>>I am loading data from table A into table B. Certain columns in B have
>> check constraints. I'd like for any rows from A, which violate
>> constraints, to be inserted into a third table, C. When the process is
>> finished, I'll have only good rows in B, and exeption rows in C.
>>
>> I am investigating INSTEAD OF triggers, however my question to the
>> group is, is there a better or best practice for this scenario? This
>> must be common. Any high-level tips or direction will be highly
>> appreciated.
>>
>> DAP
>>